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Thu, 2008-08-07 17:40 — ABN

There is a lot of clear thinking out there. Just about everyone can see how weak the case is. People sympathize with Ivins, as do I. We can imagine being in his position. 9/11 is harder to see because there are so many victims and reprisals were taken against whole nations. For me, I imagine the people in the planes or the Towers. Then I wonder, have their deaths been properly investigated? Have we done them justice? Do we know who was responsible? Or did this nation just lash out at whatever Bush pointed toward? We see the lies about WMD, oil, domestic spying, torture, GITMO. It's all so obvious. Then why don't more of us see the lies that are the official story of 9/11? How can so many people be so sensible about Ivins--asking all the right questions and not being easily fooled--but so blind about 9/11? We doubt that the anthrax envelopes prove Ivins' guilt because many could have purchased them. But what about the hijacker's passport found on the street in New York City just after 9/11? If that were Ivins' passport, would you believe it had survived the crash? Is it not clear that someone put it there to mislead investigators, to send them down the wrong trail? There is even more poor reasoning and bad evidence in the 9/11 story than in the Ivins one. Everyone asks where is the evidence that links Ivins directly with the letters, but so far, there is no answer because there seems to be no such evidence. It's a good question and it ruins the FBI's case. Now answer this: Has anyone ever seen a photo of Flight #93 which supposedly crashed into a hole in the ground in Pennsylvania? It must have been pulled out of the hole and photographed, right? So where are the pictures? Where is the plane? ABN
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Thursday, August 7, 2008

The shiny new methods of "microbial forensics," touted by the FBI for months as offering a new break in the case, have in fact revealed little or nothing. As the New York Times' Scott Shane and Eric Lichtblau reveal, "officials admitted that more than 100 people had access to the supply of anthrax that matched the powder in the letters."

But the same article notes that FBI conclusively decided Hatfill had no access to the letters' anthrax, even though he was working at Fort Detrick during the time this strain of anthrax was stored there. If the FBI conclusively decided this (though the evidence appears weak), why haven't they provided Hatfill with a full exoneration? The FBI's logic is incomprehensible. I am not trying to finger Hatfill, who I believe is innocent. Just trying to understand the FBI.

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New York Times Readers Comments on the Anthrax Case

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Fri, 2008-08-08 05:04 — Robyn

bizarro

From ABN's commentary on this story: "How can so many people be so sensible about Ivins--asking all the right questions and not being easily fooled--but so blind about 9/11?" Good question.

As far as I know, antiwar.com contributor Justin Raimondo is not sympathetic to the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement. But re-reading his excellent piece from a few days ago on the Ivins' case, Bruce Ivins: The Movie (Anthrax mystery: the FBI/media narrative is laughable – and sinister), I was struck by several passages which, if you only change the context and the wording a little bit, apply equally well the bizarro story of 9/11.

"It sounds like a very bad made-for-television movie: a mad scientist – a violent sociopath, a "nerd with a dark side," who had already tried to kill several people, is obsessed with pornography, and is fixated on a particular college sorority – unleashes a strain of deadly anthrax through the U.S. mail, killing five, infecting 17 others, and terrorizing the country. His motive, aside from sheer antisocial vindictiveness: he holds the patent for an anthrax vaccine, and he also wants to direct the nation's attention to the supposedly overlooked and underfunded problem of bio-terrorism. That'll teach 'em!"

It sounds like a very bad made-for-television movie: A shadowy-eyed ringleader named Mohammed.... A bearded guy with a laptop in a cave in Afghanistan... A gang of 19 with hate burning in their eyes and visions of nubile virgins dancing in their heads commandeers four Boeing jumbo jets in one morning (despite the fact that none of them had ever so much as sat at the helm of a such a plane, much less piloted one), outsmarts the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, penetrates heavily guarded airspace over America's capital while performing stunning aerial acrobatics, and, with two tanks of kerosene fuel, manages to bring about the total disintegration into dust of THREE steel-framed skyscrapers. Their motive, aside from the virgins, of course: they hate our freedom. That'll teach 'em!

"Surely a lone nut could not have carried out this technically difficult and logistically complicated scheme to terrorize an entire nation on the eve of such momentous events. That isn't "conspiracism" – it's common sense."

Surely a few guys with box cutters, dubious flying skills notwithstanding, would've had an exceedingly hard time carrying out this technically difficult and logistically complicated scheme. That isn't "conspiracism" - it's common sense.

"The FBI and those in the administration who used the anthrax attacks to stoke up a war just want to convince the American public, a group they obviously hold in such low regard that they don't bother with such niceties as logic and real evidence. Just tell them a story, and make it a good one."

The FBI and those in the administration (and God knows who else!) who used 9/11 to stoke up a war just want to convince the American public, a group they obviously hold in such low regard that they don't bother with such niceties as logic and real evidence. Just tell them that "global collapse ensued", that flight 93 crashed into a hole in the ground, that we "found" an explosion-proof passport on the sidewalk in NY as well as a suitcase at the airport full of all kinds of terrorist goodies and incriminating evidence (i.e., manuals on how to fly a Boeing, a complete list of the perpetrators, extra box cutters, a psych-up letter which reads sort of like the Islamic fanatic's version of the song "Eye of the Tiger"). Just tell them and make it good.